Jesus Christ was/is no Phantasm: “The Gospels constantly portray Christ as living a thoroughly human, bodily existence: he was conceived in a womb and born when a census was being taken; his penis was circumcised when he was an infant. He grew in stature—he did not come full grown. He got hungry, thirsty and weary. His body was nourished by ordinary food and rested by ordinary sleep; his spiritual relation to the Father was refreshed by prayer, like us” Thomas Oden, The Word of Life